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 Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2009 22:13

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I'd like to share my experience with hydration and IP since I think it may be of interest to many on the protocol.

As someone with Crohn's disease I have a tendency to become dehydrated, since I have loose stools and diarrhea. Anyone who has loose stools or diarrhea will have a tendency to become deyhrated. Those who normally do not have this problem may have it at some time while on the protocol. I have noticed that when I get dehyrated my immunopathology increases. The greater the dehydration the greater is the immunopathology. I believe this makes sense when one considers the effect of dehyration on the kidneys, especially when taking olmesartan (Benicar).

The kidneys, as well as the liver, are responsible for the removal of waste products from the body. These include the products of die-off (i.e. the cellular debris after the bacteria are killed). When the body becomes dehydrated the kidneys' ability to remove these waste products is reduced, so they build up in the body.  I believe this is what causes the increase in immunopathology.

I've been reading about how the kidneys work and how ARBs (ex. olmesartan) affects their function. What follows is my understanding. Feel free to correct me if you believe I am wrong.

When the body is dehydrated there is less fluid and thus less blood in the body. So there is less blood available to pass through the kidneys to make them work. I believe there is also a drop in blood pressure. The kidneys have a collection of filters that hold large particles back, like blood cells, while letting smaller particles through to form the urine. Some substances that pass through these filters, such as water and salt, are reaborbed back into the blood stream before they become part of the urine. The kidneys compensate for the loss of blood volume and blood pressure during dehyration by selectively constricting the return blood vessel from each filter so that there is more local blood pressure for each one. The hormone Angiotensin II is required for blood vessel constriction. ARBs block the production of angiotensin II. So the ability of the kidneys to function is not only impaired by dehydration but is even further impaired by the ARBs. As a result the body's waste products during dehydration can build up in the body at an alarming rate.

Since the kidneys are also responsible for keeping the electrolytes (sodium, potassium, chloride, bicarbonate) in balance, when kidney function is reduced, the electrolytes can become out of balance. Typically, potassium levels increase, sometimes to levels that can cause the heart to malfunction.

Since the ARBs block Angiotensin II and thus reduce blood vessel constriction, the small blood vessels supplying the kidney tissue itself remain dilated so blood flow to the kidney tissues is ensured. So, in a nutshell, the kidneys are protected at the cost to the overall body.

I've been in the hosptial twice with severe dehydration while on the protocol. The first time my creatinine level was 600 upon admission. The second time it was 500. Both times the potassium levels were high enough to have the hospital staff keep me connected to an electrocardiogram to monitor my heart. During the last time I had wave after wave of doctors, including nephrologists (i.e. kidney specialists) tell me to get off the olmasartan.

So, how to we stay hydrated?

Since I was diagnosed with Crohn's disease in 1984, the only advice given to me by doctors was to drink more when I have diarrhea and this advice only came within the last five years. So how much is more and what exactly is diarrhea?  Are loose stools considered to be diarrhea when hydration is an issue? During my recent visit to the hospital, a nurse told me the best way to ensure hydration was to monitor my urine output. It should be at least 30cc/hour, preferably 60cc.  So, just like in the hospital, I measure my urine at home using a calibrated container. After a while I will get used to the amount required and the measuring container will no longer be needed. If you find yourself not urinating or rapidly loosing weight, you have become severely dehydrated.

In summary, while on the protocol, to keep IP in check and to protect the body ensure you are well hydrated, especially if you are having loose stools or diarrhea.

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You are right that assessing urine output can be quite helpful when in danger of dehydration, like from diarrhea.  I've read that one should feel the need to urinate at least 4 or 5 times a day (with a full bladder).  Of course, going by the urge to urinate wouldn't work for someone with urinary urgency issues due to conditions where one feels the urge when the bladder isn't full.

I'd be interested to know, Ken, if needing to go at least 4 or 5 times a day coincides with the amount of urine they recommend for you.

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Joyce,

According to the hospital nurse, one should typically go every 4 hours, except during sleep. The daily total volume should be at least 720cc, preferably 1440cc. He also said the bladder signals the need to go at about 200cc but has a much higher capacity (400-600cc I recall). So 4-5 times per day makes sense.

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with you all the way Ken

I have had less brain fog
and somewhat less mood problems (still flare up occasionally but always have strong feeling that I have used up my morning or afternoon ration of energy before I blow my top)
since cutting back on the salt I put on food, and adding a small amount of salt to almost all the water I drink.

  I also sleep longer without waking every 3 hours to go to the bathroom :?



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Ken,

Your explanation makes sense to me and I will use it to help me to remember to take in enough fluids. I have this tendency to do well, then slip one day and then fall off the wagon.

I too have noticed a number of things regarding water intake and Th1 illness... my own Th1 illness.

1. Like Ken, I have loose bowels. I have been looked at and tested for Chrons and other intestinal ailments, including Celiac, and have been given the IBS label. The first thing I noticed is if I do not consume enough fluid, I get constipated. It is one or the other.

This led me to a theory about the reason for IBS.

As a body becomes overwhelmed with the die off from a heavy load of bacteria (the cytokine storm that goes on), systems of the body try to adapt to relieve the body of toxins. The gut uses water to quickly flush bacteria containing food and the toxins from decomposing food out of the body, lessening the toxin load. (Much in the same way the body does this when one has a slight case of food poisoning.) Unfortunately this leads to malabsorption syndrome, which hurts health further and may contribute to hunger/weight gain.

2. The malabsorption may explain why I perceive thirst as hunger. I need food, I need access to the nutrients. This thirst/hunger confusion would also add to the weight gain (in addition to becoming sensitive to carbohydrates for whatever reason that happens).

So as the organism spirals into poor health the different systems end up competing with each other, each doing its best to return to homeostasis.

And dehydration also increases exhaustion.

My two or three cents.

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Well, I don't have a bowel problem, but I think I'll throw in my experience with constipation/diarrhea as related to my Calcium problem.  When my Calcium problem was severe, and I would have to avoid ALL high to moderate Calcium foods, I noticed that when I was very good for some time at the Calcium elimination, I would get diarrhea, and a little Calcium cleared it up.  When I would be getting a little bit of Calcium in my diet, and not very much really, by the time I would start to get my weird symptoms, I would get constipation.  I read somewhere that the colon is a storage location for Calcium.  Well, this may have nothing to do with IBS/IBD/etc, but I thought I would throw it in as another data point for conjecture or experimentation.  Cynthia



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Interesting to hear that you read that the colon is a storage location for calcium Cynthia. Although I never tried a calcium elimination diet--except that I had to eliminate calcium supplementation in foods--, calcium supplementation in orange juice and fluids seemed to cause diarrhea while calcium tablets or as part of a supplement caused bloating, discomfort, and a roller coaster of IBS sxs. I also noticed that too much calcium containing foods caused problems while a small to moderate amount did not.

Hmmm... I guess I ought to have remembered not to eat all that cheese yesterday as I was on day 2 of remembering to drink plenty of water. (Actually, I thought about this last night after eating all that cheese.)

Perhaps this calcium "sensitivity" has to do with our calcium from our bones dumping into our systems because of Th1 illness. Perhaps according to the role that the intestines play in health, perhaps too much calcium is considered a bad thing and so the intestines dumps calcium supplements or foods high in calcium (or too much calcium containing foods) quickly.

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I think my personal Calcium problem may have been a difficulty in getting rid of Calcium from my system, but I will probably never know.  But for sure, one of the places it was kept in abundance (dumped?) was in my bones, with always high density levels.  Nothing seems to be the same for everyone.  And it didn't help with my family doctor, who also does my bone density tests, to read in the "D Test Results Analysis " for me that my high level of 1,25D leads to bone density loss, which was the opposite of what he was seeing.  I suspect that the average person would never have so much Calcium stored in their colon to get to the point of constipation, as the body would probably start to eliminate it.  In fact, I wonder if the excretory process thru the skin by sweating is a normal Calcium elimination method of the body.  I certainly have had a big improvement in that ability, but I think I am getting off topic.  Cynthia



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As patients with impaired innate immune systems I think our gut walls would likely be penetrated by bacteria, fungi, the products of bacteria and fungi as well as molecules of food, hence the higher incidence of diarrhea, loose stools, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, inflammatory bowel disease, diverticulitis and other gastrointestinal ailments as well as food sensitivities. Restoration of innate immunity through the protocol may increase gastrointestinal symptoms in the short run but then hopefully eliminate them in the long run as that which penetrates the gut wall is expelled and the integrity of the gut wall is restored. In the meantime I believe we have to do what we can to manage these symptoms through the avoidance of food we are sensitive to and the compensation of fluid and electrolyte loss from diarrhea and loose stools.



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So the 720cc to 1440cc means 24 to 48 ounces of urine a day?

While that will surely be helpful (because the point is to provide enough fluid for the kidneys to work to their optimum ability), I wonder how much fluid intake that would require on average for a healthy person. I understand this would probably be different for different people, depending on height, weight, muscle vs fat, health, activity, etc. Although there seems to be a bit of a debate as to how much fluid a person needs, knowing what a healthy person typically eliminates during urination relative to the amount of fluid taken in might provide some measure of progress (in addition to the gut restoring itself with the accompanying improvements in elimination).

Thanks Ken for the reminder: I am definitely trying to manage the symptoms and your raising this issue has been helpful to underscore the need to keep my electrolytes balanced and have enough fluid intake for optimum kidney function. Given that I am watching my kidney labs, I am very much interested in your experience.

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With regard to calcium, I want to mention that it is generally recommended to try to get near the RDA of calcium via diet (or sometimes supplements if diet is not feasible).  See this link:  http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum32/1083.html

I think some problems with calcium, like constipation, are due to not getting enough magnesium (from diet or supplements).  One also needs to take it in divided doses and make sure the total amount from diet and food is not too high (not above 1500 mg). I also make sure I get enough vitamin K.

I think other problems can be due to a sensitivity to the food or supplement itself, and not the calcium.  I tolerate Solgar chelated calcium and it's about the only one I tolerate (I take it with Solgar chelated magnesium, from http://needs.com or from http://amazon.com ).

Another possibility is that if one has been avoiding calcium for a long time, it is likely one's immune system is not functioning fully and so if one adds calcium, the immune system may start functioning more strongly and increase IP. 

In that case, one should probably adjust MP meds to decrease the IP and then slowly add the calcium.

I really think it is important to try to get enough calcium, if one can't get up to the RDA, then at least work one's way up to 600-800 mg daily (assuming you don't have hypercalcemia as a medical issue).

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This is really interesting topic.
I have found recently some interesting work of Iranian physician which is available for free http://www.watercure.com
and http://www.watercure2.org (patients experiences and letters) .

According to him, to stay hydrated is to avoid caffeine (diuresis), alcohol(diuresis, we all know how alcohol dries skin when put on it) and ingest more salt(sea salt best, as an electrolyte) and drink only water practically, around 2,5Liters a day, depending on ur weight.
Really interesting approach, since most natural approaches for health relate to food, and we are composed 65% of water.



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This is a great topic & something that really needs to be covered more. Staying hydrated while on the MP is extremely important to keep the kidneys healthy, and the excretion of the waste products steady. Anyone who becomes dehydrated while on the MP is at risk for kidney complications. The bacterial killing puts enough strain on the kidneys, but adding dehydration to that is just asking for trouble. Before starting the MP I would only urinate twice per day and hardly drank anything, and after 3 months on the MP I was faced with a pretty nasty kidney scare most likely due to the combination of dehydration and an overactive immune response. My solution is to carry a large see-through 1 L bottle of water with me and make sure to drink at least two of these bottles per day. There is usually an immediate improvement in test results such as the creatinine, albumin, and BUN. Adding a little bit of sea salt to the water I feel can be helpful as well.

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According to http://www.watercure2.org, fully hydrated person should produce almost colorless urine. If ur urine is dark you are dehydrated, your body is concentrating urine. If you are urinating rarely, you are dehydrated. If you urinate too often, you might be salt deficient.



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This is, in my opinion, most interesting story from watercure2.org watercure.com hydration therapy.

I spoke with Andrew many times, through mail and skype.


Andrew J. Bauman saved by water-cure
Real life testimony on Water Cure Protocol.

Note: Unlike all the other letters which have been edited only for their names to protect people from excessive calls, I use Andrew's full name in the letter that follows to leave no doubt that such a person does exist. He lives in New York and is now studying Chinese medicine. Andrew Bauman's history of illness is unique in the way it illustrates the sequence of physiological events that take place when the human body becomes persistently dehydrated. When you read his letter, you will begin to realize the connection between so many "disease conditions" and gradually establishing dehydration, and more importantly, the emerging connection of major health issues to one another.

In him, the dehydration of early childhood revealed itself in the form of allergies and proceeded to manifest as diabetes, asthma, immune suppression and repeated infections, vascular disease, and eventually cutaneous B-cell lymphoma. In the established trends of modern medicine, Andrew had to go from one doctor to another and one hospital to another for the symptomatic treatment of his various health problems. Ultimately, his treatment included being X-ray -roasted and he sustained extensive burns. Until he refused further treatment, they, the doctors, continue his X-ray -roasting to kill his cancer cells. Fortunately he realized that he would more readily die from his treatment protocol than from his variety of health problems.

About two week ago (April 2003), I received an elated call from Andrew. He has just undergone extensive examination and investigation to see if he is still cancer-free. He got a clean bill of health. His "traditional" doctors were flummoxed and wanted to know how he had done it. Apparently, it is unheard of for his kind of lymphoma not to recur in six years. He proceeded to explain to them the water cure protocol!
Here is the detailed history of his dehydration diseases.

Let me also explain the reason why Andrew was contracting so many infections. Histamine is the primary water regulator of the human body. It is also a primary immune system regulator. But when histamine gets engaged in water regulation of the human body, it automatically suppresses the immune system at the bone marrow level of activity. It has to do it; otherwise dehydration would constantly cause immune system flare-up. This is the natural design of the human body to conserve the immune system for serious infections and not waste its resources when the human body is dehydrated.

His diseases: Lymphoma; Allergies; Asthma; Diabetes; Immune System Suppression; Diabetic Neuropathy:

(Letter dated,March 2003)(It was a long letter. You may like to print out for reference later)

My name is Andrew J.Bauman,IV, and I am 42 years young, yet at age 34 I felt and looked like I was at least 44! Most of my life has been spent battling illness and disease, whereas now I celebrate each moment of each day with a renewed vigor and vitality. I used to be chronically dehydrated and now I know better.

I was born on October 29, 1956, in Taylor, PA, in a small hospital near Scranton in Northeast Pennsylvania. My parents lovingly cared for me -- including having me vaccinated. I was reared on infant formula and later cereal, juices, and a small amount of water when I would cry from colic. After my first polio vaccine, I became
mysteriously paralyzed from the waist down. Specialists were puzzled, yet diagnosed "Aborted Polio." It left as suddenly as it appeared. When I received a booster dose of the vaccine at around age 5 in first grade, the paralysis returned. Months of hospitalization and bed rest resulted in my gaining weight. I mostly ate my meals and had visitors, drank soda and some water now and then -- and once again the paralysis disappeared.

When I began third grade -- around eight years old -- my allergic afflictions and symptoms had begun. I had problems with frequent dry coughs. I began experiencing some difficulties with breathing, itchy and watery eyes, and fatigue when I was around fresh-cut lawns from springtime until autumn. When I was a junior in high school, I experienced blackouts from allergies. Sometime around 1979, I saw a specialist who did testing and diagnosed me with allergies and asthma. I was approximately 23 years old. I was treated with allergy shots and inhalers. The treatments just seemed to make things worse. My lips were always dry and cracked. At that time of my life I was drinking about 2 to 4 cups of coffee per day along with a few glasses of soda and some tea and alcohol. I would have an occasional glass of water during the day. The allergies and asthma stayed with me until 1996 when my water intake was up to about two to three quarts a day. I no longer struggle with allergies or asthma.

My problems with diabetes began at age 14. I was diagnosed as an insulin-dependent or "juvenile diabetic." It was then that I began drinking diet beverages including those with caffeine. My water intake at that time was still only around 2 to 4 glasses a day and I was drinking tea and started drinking coffee. The diabetes resulted in many hospitalizations over the years. By the mid 1980s I had problems with diabetic neuropathy that was causing my legs to swell. I was scheduled to have dye injected into my legs to perform a diagnostic scan after a Doppler radar study showed some apparent blockages in the veins on my legs. The dye injections caused my veins to burst, which made the swelling worse. I was then diagnosed with "venous insufficiency." In 1994, I was told that my legs would probably have to be amputated within a year or so.

While attempting to get on a diabetic insulin supply trial, the initial examination revealed that the retinas in my eyes had grown blood vessels that were bleeding (diabetic retinopathy). I began receiving a series of laser surgeries over the next 15 years to attempt to seal the leaky vessels and to attempt to prevent any new vessel growth. This reduced my peripheral and night vision. In 1992, I developed an enlarged yet benign prostate gland and my kidneys began showing signs of deterioration. In 1993, I began experiencing some potency difficulties. In 1994, I began seeing a natural or homeopathic physician who, besides treating me with alternative medicine, advised me to increase my water intake. My intake of insulin was around 95 units of insulin daily.

In 1976, many immune system problems began developing. I graduated from high school in 1974 and went away to college. In 1976, I got a job as a mental health worker while going to school. I met my wife and while dating, working full time, and going to school part time, I developed "Infectious Mononucleosis." My wife and I were married in 1977, and I continued to struggle with many infections and illnesses as well losing my job in 1978.
In 1979, during one of my then frequent hospital stays, I was diagnosed with "mono" again! The doctors insisted that I shouldn't have it again and began consulting with specialists. I received an influenza vaccine and was discharged; only to be readmitted one day later with a fever of 106*F. I was undergoing many tests,however nothing much was showing up at that time. After many tests for severe abdominal pain, I was told that I grew a second spleen that was attached to my spleen and that the second one was also functioning. That year I was visiting someone, and drank unpasteurized milk and ended up in the hospital again with a bacterial infection of the intestinal tract. "Brucellosis and Proteus----ox-19" was the diagnosis and I was on yet more antibiotics.

During 1980 or 1981, I developed another case of "mono" and was admitted to the hospital again; diabetic control problems were a constant battle for me. An infectious disease specialist discovered that a number of special antibodies were related to the problems my allergies and asthma, as well as frequent infections.

The 1980s were filled with many hospitalizations, illnesses, job losses and stress-related problems. It was then that I was diagnosed with allergies to penicillin and tetracycline, began developing hypertension, was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, lymphoid hyperplasia (over-stressed immune system), arthritis, bursitis, fibromyalgia, and gastroparesis or acid reflux problems, and bowel problems. I also developed a benign tumor on the left flank of my back. I developed a nodule on my thyroid area and was diagnosed with lead, cadmium and aluminium poisoning, which were also found in a landfill I lived near. I was overweight and developed sleep apnea. Tests showed that I stopped breathing over 300 times in a six-hour period and had "narcolepsy." I could fall asleep in a short of time. I had surgery to attempt to correct the sleep apnea, and I wore a tracheotomy tube in my neck to help me breath at night, and slept with a breathing machine to keep my airway open. During the 80s I still drank a few glasses of water, yet consumed large amounts of coffee, saccharine and eventually NutraSweet. In 1987, I was declared "disabled"!

In 1992, at 36 years old, I looked and felt like I was in my late forties and felt worse than I looked. I began using natural supplements with vitamins, herbs, and other natural medical techniques. The natural doctor's advice was to increase my water consumption and decrease my caffeine intake as well. I had lost the feeling in my feet, was always tired and achy, depressed and had little hope.

I began to drink more water and reduced my caffeine intake somewhat and by 1995, I began to feel and look much better. Yet I was still only consuming a quart and a half daily, and not flushing all the caffeine out of my system nor was I using sea salt.

In September of 1995 that lump on my left flank turned red, and began itching and enlarging. My family physician removed it and sent it away for study. In October, I was diagnosed with cutaneous B-cell lymphoma. Twenty-six new tumors had grown on my back where there was one and I was sent to a major hospital where I was told that lymphatic cancer on the skin surface was rare and that not much research was done yet on it. I went for a gallium test and it revealed that my entire body surface glowed positive for cancer cells. The flank of my back was brighter white or "hyper-positive," as was the middle of my chest where two melanomas were previously removed. I was advised to receive localized radiation and as tumors appeared we would radiate them too or I could travel to Philadelphia and have my entire body surface radiated. They began to radiate my back, which began giving me third-degree burns. I refused total body radiation and midway through my radiation my homeopathic physician began using a natural cleansing therapy. The cancer specialist had advised me to try anything and to "pull out all the stops as well as to get my affairs in order." I increased my water consumption and took supplements and natural treatments.

In November of 1995, while traveling in search of an answer, I had to buy tires for my car. At the auto parts store where I was looking for tires, I was introduced to Bob Butts who exposed me to your water cure program and advised me to stick to it very seriously to get cured. I now began to seriously increase my water intake but was still leery of increasing salt intake due to the traditional medical contra-indications for its perceived high blood pressure problems. Later, I learned of the error of that thinking and began to increase my salt intake too. In March of "1996" I went for another gallium scan, which revealed that there was not a single sign of cancer glowing positive on my entire body. Doctors thought that there was an error in the gallium scan, but my homeopath and I knew that I was healing. Drinking more water, reducing caffeine, and change in dietary habits, natural medicine and faith had brought me home. I acknowledge God's presence in me and remember the scripture, "I am the living waters." He called you and me "the salt of the earth," and tells us that we are "one in spirit."

Since then I've been constantly improving in my health. I no longer have two spleens, but one that is normal in size and function. Now I lick sea salt off my palm in the morning before my first glass of water and use salt liberally. I drink about 1.5 gallons of water a day and take some supplements as well as eating a lot of whole grains, and fresh fruits and vegetables. My waist used to be a size 40 inch and now is a size 36 inch, I weighed 249 pounds, now I weigh 210 and have solid muscle mass. My complexion and appearance are those of a man in his early thirties and my potency of a man in his twenties. My ankles are no longer swollen and new pulses, yes, new pulses have developed where once they were dead. I no longer take any medications for all those problems, whereas I used to be on at least 15 prescriptions at a time. My insulin needs are down from 95 units a day to 35-45 units a day. I no longer suffer with "chronic infections" or fatigue -- I sleep 6-8 hours a day instead of 12-14. It is rare for me to take antibiotics, whereas I seemed to be constantly taking them before. I don't have allergies or asthma or gastroparesis (acid reflux) any more. I no longer suffer from arthritis, bursitis, or bowel problems. At the time of my last stress test, my doctor who is younger than I am told me that I was in better shape than he was. The high blood pressure is constantly improving. No more thyroid nodule, I sleep better and no more heavy metal toxicity. I have a new lease on life.

My prayers have been answered. God led me to a natural way to heal my body, my mind and my spirit. I am living a new life now with a balance of water, salt, minerals, supplements, good nutrition and continued improvements in my quality of life. I am truly blessed.

You have my permission to use this letter in any way you think will help spread the news of the medicinal value of water in medical treatment procedures.
Sincerely, Andrew J. Bauman, IV

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Wrotek,
I don't want to see a testimonial letter from somebody who has been 'cured' I want to see weekly progress reports. I want to know what happens from week to week, from year to year. I want to be able to ask the patient questions about what they feel is happening.

You see, chronic disease relapses and remits on a 3-5 year timeframe. No 'cure' conclusions can be drawn from any timescale less than that. Additionally, the typical life expectancy of somebody seriously ill is 10 to 20 years after they are sick enough for a diagnosis to be made. Before a 'cure' can be claimed there has to be some impact of therapy to lengthen that prognosis. I want to see an improvement of health at the 5 and 10 year marks.

Anything less may be gold, or it may be fool's gold :)
 
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I understand.
Very well then :)

Perhaps this story will be more appropriate from time perspecive.

It is a story of Frank Tippett.
I spoke over the phone with Frank very recently .

He has had MS symptoms for 18 years and is now 12 years free of all MS symptoms. So his MS story spreads for over 30 years.

What is interesting that Frank only drank Soda, never Chlorogenic Acid containing coffee, because he does not like how coffee tastes.

And what is awesome that his neck and brain lesions healed.

Enjoy :)

Date: April 12, 2002
My name is Frank Tippett.
I have MS. I was diagnosed in April of 2000. The MRI's showed the myelin sheath missing and plaque on the brain. My neurologist checked my medical history and said the first time the entire right side of my body went numb and tingly (18 years ago) was the beginning of my MS.

The first time I had an attack the doctor did all types of tests. He took a spinal fluid sample for testing, however, the hospital lost it. The numbness and tingling never completely stopped, I just learned to live with it.

I was out of work for six months at that time. I went twelve years before I had another attack; this time the upper half of my body was affected. This time the doctor did the MRI's and nothing showed up in the neck or brain.

I went through a series of nerve conductive tests over the next two years. Nothing showed up from these tests. I had another attack in April 2000 and this time the MRI's showed the MS in the neck and brain.

I had numbness, tingling, pain, slurred speech, lost control of my right arm, walking and balance problems, bodily functions slowed down and I was constantly tired.

The doctor put me on Avonex. The Avonex would only help for three days out of the week. It started working longer when I started the water and sea salt.

I also take cold pressed flax seed oil, B Complex, lecithin and a good one-a-day vitamin and potassium.

Two and a half months after I started the water cure the numbness and tingling were gone and in the following months my walking and balance improved, my bodily functions returned to normal.

In December 2001 I returned to the neurologist and told him I was going off the Avonex and using just the water cure.

I told him just what you had to take along with no alcohol or caffeine and he told me it was a good idea because caffeine causes certain neurological functions to cease in the brain.

He conducted all the tests for MS and said I was in excellent health.

In June of this year my family doctor is going to re-do the MRI's to see if my MS is really gone.

As an added bonus, I had an enlarged prostate for seven years. My family doctor checked it my last visit and said it was normal. He did blood work to make sure and everything came back normal. I feel to deal with the effects of MS you need a positive attitude, an open mind and a willingness to try other treatments, like the water cure.

I haven't felt this good in twenty years, thanks to Dr. Batmanghelidj and Bob Butts.

Sincerely,

Frank Tippett
570-457-6246

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Aquaporins - proteins that transport water through cell membrane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTkE91ICB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxadMJ9zqpA&feature=endscreen




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The effect of hydrocortisone on the transport of water, sodium, and glucose in the jejunum. Perfusion studies in normal subjects and patients with coeliac disease.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7323700

In normal subjects, the mean net absorption of water and sodium was significantly increased in the presence of hydrocortisone decreased.


What does this sentence mean, why is -ed in the last word -> decreas-ed ? Is this a language error ? Does not sound right.

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