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LHG
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Posted: Fri Dec 9th, 2011 19:59 |
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What happend to the who's online section at the bottom of the window after log in?
Thanks, Lou
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mvanwink5
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Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2011 19:42 |
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Dr. Marshall,
Could you talk about the antibiotics that the MP uses and antibiotic resistance. I wonder if high frequency dosing of minocycline for palliation might not become a resistance issue. Also, just because there is IP does not mean important bugs are not left behind to later become an issue.
This resistance issue was brought up by a Tel Aviv group that is marketing a product. I am not really asking about the product, but the antibiotic resistance issue and possible link to a rough stage 5. Here is the link and excerpt:
http://www.aftau.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=15659
"Certain antibiotics are designed to target and bind to a part of the bacteria cell called a ribosome — the protein factory of the cell. But after continual and frequent exposure to antibiotics, the bacteria "learn" to change components in the ribosome itself so that the antibiotics are unable to bind."
Thanks as always and best regards,
Mike
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Lyme joints, muscle pain, mood, brain fog, photosensitive, MP start 8/10; 25D 11ng/ml 5/13; vegan; no abx, Olm(no breaks) current dosage 160 mg/day, Buspirone 2.5 mg before bed My Progress
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mvanwink5
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Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2011 20:44 |
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Dr. Marshall,
Given the Th1 disease model A to Z - (subset of A to Z) = some specific named (or unnamed) disease, why would one not suppose that the use of antibiotics is only modifying a small part of the subset of missing bacteria, and that Th1 disease recovery is actually solely due to olmesartan use?
Best regards,
MikeLast edited on Sun Dec 11th, 2011 20:45 by mvanwink5
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Lyme joints, muscle pain, mood, brain fog, photosensitive, MP start 8/10; 25D 11ng/ml 5/13; vegan; no abx, Olm(no breaks) current dosage 160 mg/day, Buspirone 2.5 mg before bed My Progress
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mvanwink5
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Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2011 20:58 |
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Dr. Marshall,
Why do we think that Th1 bacteria are slow growing and therefore chronic disease progresses slowly, instead of thinking that slow chronic disease progression is a net result of gradual failure of the innate immune system?
How significant is the innate immune system suppressed during pregnancy?
Best regards,
Mike
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Lyme joints, muscle pain, mood, brain fog, photosensitive, MP start 8/10; 25D 11ng/ml 5/13; vegan; no abx, Olm(no breaks) current dosage 160 mg/day, Buspirone 2.5 mg before bed My Progress
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 16:59 |
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Hmm. I need ideas...
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marion villa
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 17:34 |
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Dr m
How would an MP patient look if his VDRs would come blocked again with some other thing taken without being aware?
Like his symptoms after being herxing ok
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Lupus, RA, erythema nosodum, skin ulcers, MP 11/07, little meloxicam, paracetamol, NoIRs, ,Ph 2 /20 april 2008,25D<4ng,ph 3/ 22 oct 2008.
Some sun sensitivity.
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keithw
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 21:09 |
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I have a friend who has ALS and I have been contacted privately by another with this problem.
I note there has been some development elswhere that has been reported hereabouts which looks promising and I was wondering how we stand on this issue.
Keith.
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WeanPred May09 no breaks SLE, CNS vasculitis, avascular necrosis, arthritis both shoulders Ph1Aug09 Ph2Nov09 Ph3Feb10 25D35(May09)18(Mar10)16.7(Jul10)13.6(Jan11)13.2 (Oct 11)14.8(Aug 12) Entering stage 5.
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Paisleykilt
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 21:32 |
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How does one determine who is able to benefit from the MP?
For example, is it too late for a couple in their 80's, one of whom has Alzheimer's (is still verbal, but prone to panic attacks, and very forgetful) and the other, who has Parkinson's and trouble with small skin cancers (surgically removed)? My MP doc fears they are too frail to withstand IP, but they are already dealing with some pretty harsh symptoms.
Would you recommend MP for a 58 year old autistic man? He seems physically quite healthy, but requires 24 hour supervision, because he is non-verbal.
Would you recommend MP for a 53 year old female, a former champion runner, with early onset Alzheimer's (dx'd at 48)?
Perhaps these questions are too difficult to answer without more specific details, but if you could give some general guidelines, they would be greatly appreciated: e.g. earliest age MP is appropriate, which conditions MP is most successful at improving, and which, if any, would probably not benefit from the MP.
I find myself wanting to recommend the MP to everyone, because it's already starting to give me little pieces of my life back. Thank you so very much! 
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MP start May'11 (no breaks) | Lyme Disease/CFS/Fibromyalgia (depending which specialist to believe) | muscle/joint pain, severe fatigue, neurological symptoms | last 25D= 11.2 ng/mL Jan.'13
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leroybrown
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 22:01 |
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How do we know healthy people don't get IP if they try benicar / abx?
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Life could be worse. Things could get bad. - Barney Bentall
Aplastic anemia Apr/10, PRCA Jan/09, Agranulocytosis 1991
25D = 25 1,25D = 58 Aug 18/09|25D<4.8 Mar/10|10.8 Nov/12
Ph1: Sept 29/09 benicar q8hrs * Nov 26/09 q6hrs *
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terrylmcc
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Posted: Thu Jan 5th, 2012 22:13 |
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Any elaboration on neurological IP. Depression, inability recall words, ect.
Are Eyes playing tricks on MPrs considered neurological? Morning double vision, blurred vision.
Any news on PO, Timeline when it might be available?
more questions as they sporadically pop in and out of my mind. :-?
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Sarcoidosis/lung &cutanious biopsy. uveitis Ph1,Jan07 ModPh2,Apr07 Ph2, Dec07 Ph3,Feb08 NoIRs avoid lite exposure, 25 D 6/08 = 5, 25D 3-09 4. 4-4-10 25D 9.
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Carricol
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 01:33 |
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| Any discussion why some folks are substantially cured at the 3 to 4 year point and why others take 5 to 7 years or even more. Does age play in this?
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 06:01 |
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| What is your view on the mechanism behind vaccines being associated with a higher rate of autoimmune disease diagnoses?
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CFS/ME 25D: 8 ng/mL (feb 2013), olmesartan 5 times per day
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 06:27 |
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Oops, Inge, I forgot to answer that question when you emailed it  Sorry about that. Been pretty busy these last few weeks...
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Nuvola
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2012 22:11 |
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| Could you repeat the thought, some further explanation on Olmetec alone without antibiotic? Signal which should prompt us to take the antibiotic - Mino -? . What are adequate levels of vitamin d for desirable progress. All best. Nuvola
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MP start Nov'10 (no breaks) | Sarcoidosis | aspergillum | itching, sores, hard cough, difficulty breathing | last 25D= 7 ng/mL Nov'10,oxygen when needed.
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Joyful
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 04:33 |
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REMINDER:
Next scheduled conference: January 7th, 2011, 2pm PST Countdown Timer: 0 days + 16 : 32 : 26 hours.
http://marshallprotocol.com/conferences/
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ChrisMavo
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 08:57 |
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Would it be possible to put together a video overview of the MP on YouTube? The videos of the conference presentations are wonderful and very valuable for us already on the MP ... not to mention our doctors. But a nice 20 or 30 minute overview for newbies would be nice as an introduction to the MP. Something like the MP Overview that Amy had on the Bacteriality site is what I have in mind.
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PLS/ALS, speech difficulty, dizziness, leg weakness, overly emotional, Ph1Aug2609,11/2012 25D-12, 11/11: 25D-10, 04/11: 25D-11, 07/10: 25D-13, 05/10: 25D-15, 11/09: 25D-20, 9/09: 25D-27, 7/09: 25D-38, 1,25D-46, Mod Ph2Oct09, 100mg Mino
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Rico
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 13:47 |
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Can we discuss chlorogenic acid, genistein and carnosic acid and their effect on the VDR and immune system and how they compare to Vitamin D's effect?
Seems there's a lot of emphasis on avoiding foods containing Vitamin D while on the MP as a result of its known VDR antagonist behavior. There doesn't seem to be the same emphasis put on foods containing CGA, genistein and carnosic acid. Do they not have as powerful an effect on the VDR or are they simply not as clearly understood yet?
Can we still make progress on the MP if we avoid foods with Vitamin D but don't pay as much attention to foods containing CGA, genistein and carnosic acid?
Thank you.
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No diagnosis/some symptoms; wife with Sarc on MP; Olm 40mg q6h| avoid D| 1,25D=63 25D=32 (May 2006) 1,25D=44; 25D=10(Dec 2006)PhaseI(May06) PhaseII(Aug06) PhaseIII(Aug07)
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mvanwink5
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 14:14 |
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Rico,
25D and 1,25D have unusually high affinities and wide ranging antagonist interactions with other important innate immune system active nuclear receptors (VDR, AR, GCR, etc). 25D also seems to stay in the body a very long time. I don't think the same can be said about CGA, etc. There was a paper that also talked about over 50 spices that are common and have important immune biologic effects too (http://www.marshallprotocol.com/view_topic.php?id=14243&forum_id=43&highlight=spices). I think the guideline has been to not overdo any spice or food, but one does have to eat. Still, it is important to perhaps minimize foods especially high in such foods that are high in known chemicals that are an issue. Just some thoughts.
Best regards,
Mike
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Lyme joints, muscle pain, mood, brain fog, photosensitive, MP start 8/10; 25D 11ng/ml 5/13; vegan; no abx, Olm(no breaks) current dosage 160 mg/day, Buspirone 2.5 mg before bed My Progress
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leroybrown
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 17:17 |
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1,25D is the endogenous VDR agonist.
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Life could be worse. Things could get bad. - Barney Bentall
Aplastic anemia Apr/10, PRCA Jan/09, Agranulocytosis 1991
25D = 25 1,25D = 58 Aug 18/09|25D<4.8 Mar/10|10.8 Nov/12
Ph1: Sept 29/09 benicar q8hrs * Nov 26/09 q6hrs *
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Frans
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2012 17:43 |
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Trevor,
Could you go into resistancy, especially superbugs and how to view those from an MP standpoint ? Two of my docs got a little nervous when I asked for bactrim.
I remember a paper where they found superbugs in the watersupply ? Are all these superbugs growable in/on a medium (I forgot the proper term, I am sorry).
TIA, Frans
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Burn-out/nervous breakdown Jan01 125D 48 25D8.48 Ph1Nov06 ModPh2Jan07 Ph2Apr08 Cipramil Seroquel NoIRs lite exp r/t work cover up 25D3.9(Oct07)
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