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SanDiegoJoy
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Posted: Wed Dec 14th, 2011 18:10 |
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| Wow, Freddie, that blows me away. I hope that isn't going to be a common practice. Maybe it was just because it was his first order. I just received my 3 mo. supply from PlanetDrugs about 2 weeks ago and it just came in mailbox as usual. I would sure hate to have to go to the Post Office. Maybe it has something to do with the state or local area he lives in? (His local Postal Service might have some specific rules about picking up meds - he might try calling his P.O. and asking them, if he's curious to know if that might be the reason.)
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Dr Trevor Marshall
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Posted: Wed Dec 14th, 2011 20:43 |
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Maybe the meds were just sent Registered mail, or "signature required." If so, let we can Planet Drugs know not to do it in the future, please 
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danalyzer
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Posted: Wed Dec 14th, 2011 21:04 |
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I still order from planet drugs with no problem. (The Texas based outfit)
My credit card company always seems to have a problem though and call me everytime for approval verification
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Carricol
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 03:46 |
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I found thi statement at the bottom of the linked page. Does anyone have any comments? Any idea what they mean by technically not legal?
U.S. Law: U.S. government officials have stated that individuals who order non-controlled prescription drugs from Canada or other foreign sources (up to a three-month supply) for their own use are not being pursued or prosecuted. However, it is technically not legal for individuals to import most prescription drugs.
http://www.pharmacychecker.com/compare-drug-prices-online-pharmacies/Benicar-40+mg/25036/41989/CPP/
Last edited on Thu Dec 15th, 2011 03:47 by Carricol
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Russ
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 05:46 |
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Carricol wrote: I found thi statement at the bottom of the linked page. Does anyone have any comments? Any idea what they mean by technically not legal?
Yeah, in the U.S., ordering prescription drugs from Canada or other foreign countries is already illegal. When I emailed one of my representatives in Congress over the summer, this was part of the response:
"Current federal law prohibits the importation of prescription drugs from foreign countries, unless the Secretary of Health and Human Services certifies that the drugs in question are safe and offer legitimate savings to U.S. customers. To date, the Secretary has not made any such certifications."
So what they mean by "technically not legal" is that by the written law it is illegal but in practice they do not enforce the law (as long as it is an individual ordering less than a 3 month supply, etc.). However, in the last year or so, many of the online Canadian pharmacies have been alerting U.S. customers that the current ability to order medications from them is at risk due to the U.S. government's intent to start cracking down on online pharmacies.
This potential crackdown is probably a combination of legitimate safety concerns (sketchy sites that sell counterfeit meds, narcotics without prescriptions, etc.) and a desire on the part of the Pharma companies to plug a leak in their revenue and profits. At least this is my understanding - I really don't know anything more than the info that is available at RxRights and other sites. It's possible that the online pharmacies and their activist organizations might over-exaggerate things as a way of motivating people to be pro-active and voice their concerns to Congress, but it's also very possible the concern is real.
This all kind of reminds me of what happened back in the spring with online poker. Poker has grown immensely in popularity over the last 5+ years and online poker became big business. The sites all operated out of the Carribean and places like that. Though it was technically illegal for U.S. players to gamble on those sites, this was not enforced and millions of U.S. citizens were doing so - everyone from college kids to retired seniors and from 50 cent games to super high stakes. Again there were both legitimate concerns about the gambling and an industry that was seeing it's revenue and profits cut into (the physical casinos in the U.S. that were losing business to the online sites). The companies that operate the legal physical casinos lobbied state and federal governements to start cracking down on the online sites. First they got credit card companies and banks to not allow deposits to these sites or withdrawals from them. Then last spring the final nail was driven in and the sites were literally shut down for U.S. customers...you would go to a site and there was just a big U.S. Department of Justice logo and a statement that said the site had been seized or something to that effect. So the end result is that it is perfectly legal for me to drive 10 minutes up the road to a physical casino where I would have to play for higher stakes than I would like, but it is illegal (and now impossible) for me to hop online and play a 50 cent game. Anyways, this might all be completely unrelated to what may or may not be going on with online pharmacies, but just seems like there is a general effort to crackdown on the wild west anything goes atmosphere of the internet, especially by those who are losing money to the online businesses.
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Freddie Ash
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 12:03 |
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HI ALL
This is Fred in WV. Thanks for all the replys. I tried to calll my son last evening but was not able to reach him to find out what happened. He works for the customs at the air port there. Will let you know when I find out how it turned out.
On the law Carricol quoited my son told me the law was like speeding. If you get caught it is up to the officer to fine you or not. He may just warn you or fine you. They are not trying to catch you for buying you meds this way.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your fiend in Sarcoidosis
Freddie
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Chris
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 18:49 |
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We've been ordering from planet-d-d for a while now, and it's always required a signature. Other sites have not shipped this way. I prefer the signature requirement, because it's a bit disconcerting to come home and find the package sitting on the doorstep in the rain, or blown into the shrubbery by the wind.
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Freddie Ash
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 19:48 |
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HI ALL
This is Fred in WV. Mine is always put into my RR mail box and I do not have to sign for it. I have been doing this for over 2 years, I think.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in Sarcoidosis
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Posted: Thu Dec 15th, 2011 20:41 |
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| I get planet-dd without signing, but I have a private mail service, and they could sign for it, but I don't think they have been. Cynthia
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leroybrown
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Posted: Fri Dec 16th, 2011 13:05 |
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What are non-controlled prescription drugs?
Aren't all prescription drugs controlled?
When I ordered online, there was a box to tick for signature required or not. It's better to have to sign for it in case the package goes missing. If there's no signature, then they have no proof of delivery. I don't think the post office knows or cares it's drugs inside.
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Russ
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Posted: Fri Dec 16th, 2011 20:42 |
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leroybrown wrote: What are non-controlled prescription drugs?
Aren't all prescription drugs controlled?
Controlled or scheduled drugs are a specific list of drugs that are more tightly controlled than other prescription meds due to abuse/dependency potential or some other risk. It includes recreational drugs, some painkillers, some stimulants, and some anti-depressant/anxiety meds.
http://www.tsbp.state.tx.us/consumer/broch2.htm
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Russ
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Posted: Thu Dec 29th, 2011 21:04 |
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Here's an update from RxRights.org:
http://www.rxrights.org/your-thoughts/sopa-legislative-update
"The House Judiciary Committee just held a mark up hearing on the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). As we’ve been cautioning for a while, this bill is dangerous for a number of reasons. Our readers need to be aware of this bill because it would cut off American access to legitimate international online pharmacies."
"If you tuned in to the proceedings, you witnessed an unfortunate spectacle. At the onset, about 60 amendments were already proposed for the bill. That fact alone seems to prove that it is terribly written. The back and forth between proponents and opponents was tense and even childish. Glaringly absent from the hearing (and all of the anti-piracy hearings so far) was testimony from tech experts—the people who know the most about the collateral damage that such legislation would inflict upon the Internet."
"Congress is now in recess for the holidays. Although it’s unclear when SOPA will be picked up again, the bill’s sister legislation in the Senate, the PROTECT IP Act, is set for a vote on January 24. What is clear is that despite the strong and moneyed support base that this anti-piracy legislation has, a growing group of people also oppose it—from tech folks to those who aim to protect civil liberties and consumer rights. Songs, videos and boycotts have been created to raise awareness and opposition and regular citizens have come out in droves to contact their legislators and sign petitions opposing the bill."
"Congress would be foolish to ignore this mounting opposition, but stranger things have happened. As always, we’ll keep you posted."
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Freddie Ash
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Posted: Thu Dec 29th, 2011 23:11 |
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HI ALL
This is Fred in WV. My son said he just had to sign showing that he received the meds. Just like you would with a delevery ticket. So it was no big deal.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in sarcoidosis
Freddie
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Russ
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Posted: Tue Jan 17th, 2012 01:55 |
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Wikipedia and a few other sites will be "blacked out" on Wednesday in protest against the SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) bill. This is the same bill that the online pharmacies and prescription rights activist groups fear will prevent Americans from ordering medications from Canada and other countries (see previous posts in this thread). But the bill is much broader than just online pharmacies or prescription drugs and extends to many areas of internet commerce and content.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/16/technology/sopa_wikipedia/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3
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Russ
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Posted: Wed Jan 18th, 2012 07:45 |
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Google has joined the blackout, though their site is still usable unlike Wikipedia...
https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 08:20 |
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Well SOPA & PIPA appear to have been shelved. But the SOPA advocates repeatedly mentioned access to foreign products breaching US copyrights during the media discussions, and specficically foreign pharmaceuticals which 'could cause harm'.
But the FBI raided a file-hosting service (Megaupload) under existing DMCA & copyright legislation.
Got to wonder whether PHARMA was paying attention. If so, they may be able to pressure search engines to remove results for online pharmacies, making it very difficult to find them. :s
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Russ
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 09:25 |
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Yeah, those bills have indeed been shelved, pretty much as a direct result of the public attention brought to them by the internet blackouts by Wikipedia, Google, etc.
But the issue isn't dead and yes, big Pharma was definitely paying attention. In fact, according to the article below, the pharmaceutical industry actually beats out the entertainment industry in terms of support for these bills.
Most of the media attention surrounding all this has been focused on copyright infringement of media (movies, music, etc.), but the bills would have had a much broader impact and affected many more industries. Here's one of the few articles that mentions the effect on online pharmacies:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/114683-the-unsuspecting-but-intended-victims-of-sopa-and-pipa
Canadian & international online pharmacies – SOPA has a clause that targets any site that “endangers public health.” Ostensibly this is to target fake pharma sites (the kind that get filtered into your spam inbox), but the wording of the bill is so vague that perfectly-safe pharmacies based in other Western countries could be shutdown. This could have serious repercussions for Americans who currently save a lot of money by buying their pharmaceuticals online.Last edited on Thu Jan 26th, 2012 09:29 by Russ
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 09:40 |
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Sheesh, I didn't realise it was quite that bad.
Even when olmesartan goes off-patent in the US (after that ridiculous extension Sankyo got for a few trials on kids) there's no way the US generic makers will be charging prices similar to Indian/Chinese companies. And anyway, it seems like quite a lot of people need to use offshore sources due to difficulties getting prescriptions.
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| You've gotta love the power of the internet that was on display the day of the blackout. These bills were supported by all the big media companies (Murdoch, CNN/Time, etc.), Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, and Big Alcohol (to name a few), yet after one day of a few internet companies displaying their might, every man and woman in Congress was running away from support of these bills as though their reelection depended on it. Last edited on Thu Jan 26th, 2012 10:23 by Russ
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End run around SOPA, an international treaty that allows internet censorship internationally draws large protests in Poland...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/23/if-you-thought-sopa-was-bad-just-wait-until-you-meet-acta/
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