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bookdad
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 09:38 |
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Hi, I found this one interesting....
"What may shock you is that there is increasing evidence that heart disease is caused by these deadly germs. In fact, there is evidence cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease, but a symptom of massive inflammation sparked by killer germs. "
Sound familiar? See http://w3.newsmax.com/blaylock/20a.cfm
Unfortunately this is a pay to read the whole thing ad, but the basis is intriguing.
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Freddie Ash
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 17:37 |
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HI BOOKDAD
This is Fred in WV. Right after I had my first my bypasses done at the Cleveland Clinic on Mar 20, 2001 they came out with a study to see why people with good cholesterol readings had blockages and what they found was not the reading of the cholesterol level causing the blockages, it did not matter if it was high or low. What mattered was if you had inflammation in your blood. The inflammation in the blood caused the cholesterol to stick to you blood vessels, not the level of cholesterol. But I have never had a doctor tell me this but I have told them of this. One doctor even shuck his finger at me and said,"THAT IS THE TROUBLE YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE INFLAMMATION." I shuck my finger back at him and said, "OH YES YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE BENICAR." When he left the room he shook my hand and told me I was a smart man and walked out.
Remember, we are all in this together and I am pulling for us.
Your friend in Sarcoidosis
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 17:57 |
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People tracked the planets in the skies for years and knew "all about" how they moved, but until they got rid of the preconception that the Earth was in the middle, the "facts" didn't make a lot of sense. Same thing here. We see all these stories about heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, Alzheimers and know that there is a common root. To anybody else they seem unconnected. At least for now. One of these days, maybe.
There was a very funny cartoon by Gary Larson where you see a human sized bug slumped in an alley with a bunch of other bums, and he's saying how he used to have it made back in the old days, and then one day somebody stood up at a board meeting and said, "Hey! He's just a big cockroach!" Somehow, I think Th1 will have that moment eventually. I knew it was just a big cockroach all along!
Maybe the Karolinska conference will give the MP the boost it needs to hit general recognition. It's bound to hit critical mass eventually. I'm really looking forward to seeing the recordings from this conference.
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Markt9452
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Posted: Mon Apr 14th, 2008 22:06 |
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I really am getting a strong sense that the momentum is shifting especially after reading the new article at bacteriality.com
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jrfoutin
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Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 18:40 |
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I really enjoyed this article by Amy Proal, Interview with Dr Randall Wolcott, bacterial biofilm wound specialist:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/04/13/wolcott/
I have already recommended it elsewhere and will continue to do so.
Nice work Ames!--Janet
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Caitiegirl
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Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 23:56 |
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I think I will feel the tide turning when Dr. M & Meg, et al have waiting lists for seminars to train doctors in the MP. Then we will really be on our way. No more months & money spent just finding a doctor to help.
JMHO
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 03:05 |
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That reminds me... sponsorship for some of these conferences and teaching situations is a reality.
Best to all--Janet
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Joyful
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 17:40 |
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I came across this quote and just had to throw it in here...
In times of change, the learners inherit the world, while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists. ~Eric Hoffer
I have dream.
Of a world where doctors are encouraged to be learners.
Where doctors are celebrated for their courage.
And where each individual has the financial and moral freedom to choose those doctors!
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Joyful
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 00:21 |
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Medical science finally coming around... ONE LAWSUIT AT A TIME?
This is interesting, a scientific panel has been made to acknowledge major conflicts of interest and to provide an unbiased re-evaluation of diagnosis & treatment guidelines under the supervision of an medical ethics expert.
Under its agreement with the Attorney General's Office, the IDSA will create a review panel of eight to 12 members, none of whom served on the 2006 IDSA guideline panel. The IDSA must conduct an open application process and consider all applicants.
What an interesting thought, Dr. Marshall as a panelist!
The agreement calls for the ombudsman selected by Blumenthal's office and the IDSA to ensure that the review panel and its chairperson are free of conflicts of interest.
[Connecticut Attorney General] Blumenthal's findings include the following:- The IDSA failed to conduct a conflicts of interest review for any of the panelists prior to their appointment to the 2006 Lyme disease guideline panel;
- Subsequent disclosures demonstrate that several of the 2006 Lyme disease panelists had conflicts of interest;
- The IDSA failed to follow its own procedures for appointing the 2006 panel chairman and members, enabling the chairman, who held a bias regarding the existence of chronic Lyme, to handpick a likeminded panel without scrutiny by or formal approval of the IDSA's oversight committee;
- The IDSA's 2000 and 2006 Lyme disease panels refused to accept or meaningfully consider information regarding the existence of chronic Lyme disease, once removing a panelist from the 2000 panel who dissented from the group's position on chronic Lyme disease to achieve "consensus";
- The IDSA blocked appointment of scientists and physicians with divergent views on chronic Lyme who sought to serve on the 2006 guidelines panel by informing them that the panel was fully staffed, even though it was later expanded;
- The IDSA portrayed another medical association's Lyme disease guidelines as corroborating its own when it knew that the two panels shared several authors, including the chairmen of both groups, and were working on guidelines at the same time. In allowing its panelists to serve on both groups at the same time, IDSA violated its own conflicts of interest policy.
These guidelines have affected many on the MP because...
In a step that the British Medical Journal deemed "unusual," the IDSA included in its Lyme guidelines a statement calling them "voluntary" with "the ultimate determination of their application to be made by the physician in light of each patient's individual circumstances." In fact, United Healthcare, Health Net, Blue Cross of California, Kaiser Foundation Health Plan and other insurers have used the guidelines as justification to deny reimbursement for long-term antibiotic treatment. ... we have been denied reimbursement due to these guidelines.
Of course, we know the MP is an alternative long-term antibiotic treatment that resolves the underlying Th1 disease that prevents our immune system from clearing a co-infection by the Borellia.
Original article posted here:
Attorney General's Investigation Reveals Flawed Lyme Disease Guideline Process, IDSA Agrees To Reassess Guidelines, Install Independent Arbiter
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Markt9452
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 01:09 |
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That's pretty BIG news!!
Of course the IDSA is being recalcitrant as you can see in their press release.
http://www.idsociety.org/Content.aspx?id=11182
"The IDSA Lyme disease guidelines recommend against long-term antibiotic therapy, an unproven and potentially dangerous treatment. A small group of physicians outside the medical mainstream and their patients endorse such long-term treatment, despite the compelling medical evidence that it is ineffective and can have serious, life-threatening complications—and, furthermore, is extremely expensive. This agreement does not change the medical advice to patients: The 2006 Lyme disease guidelines remain in place...and unchallenged..."
"The ombudsman will not be involved in the operation of the review panel."
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JCB
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 17:07 |
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Here is the link to the agreement between the Connecticut Attorney General and IDSA. Page 8 describes the review panel selection process.
http://www.ct.gov/ag/lib/ag/health/idsaagreement.pdf
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Jimbbb
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 23:15 |
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JCB,
Thanks for that agreement guideline.
Very interesting on that Page 8 that NO one from the 2006 panel can be on the next new panel.
Would this be a great opportunity to get at least one MD that is supportive of the MP on this panel? (Having Trevor himself or any Admins on might conflict with some of the guidelines ).
Something to think about.
The IDSA is in Arlington, VA but I assume panel members would seldom meet in person anyways.
any volunteers? (Must Be Trained in Infectious Diseases it says).
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JCB
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Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 23:33 |
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The review panel is essentially opened up to all applicants - not limited to "infectious disease" MD's. Only one member must be a physician. And the hearings on the revised guidelines will be televised.
Importantly the panel is required to search out medical/scientific evidence and this is where the MP data and clinical results could be timely and of great benefit perhaps.
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Cass A
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 09:55 |
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Here's a very interesting article about L-forms, CWD bacteria, and other infectious agents present in many neurologic "diseases."
An interesting point is that often MANY of these are present in the same person who is chronically ill.
http://tinyurl.com/preview.php?num=64y3rv - (then click: PROCEED TO THIS SITE)
May 2008 Volume 39 Number 5 LABMEDICINE
http://www.labmedicine.com - American Society for Clinical Pathology
Chronic Bacterial and Viral Infections in Neurodegenerative and Neurobehavioral Diseases by Garth Nicolson, Ph.D.
Best,
Cass A
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migsies
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 09:42 |
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Here is a news release from science daily that points to growing mainstream recognition of the role of pathogens in chronic illness, in this case ALS. It will be interesting to peruse the primary literature. Ironically, as stated in the article, Alois Alzheimer had a hunch a century ago that microbes might be involved! Talk about scientific revolutions being slow in the making...I think even Kuhn would be surprised at the slow progress in this case! Another feather in TM's cap.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080522155752.htm
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Markt9452
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 01:12 |
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Horizontal Gene Transfer Vastly Underestimated
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20070731024204data_trunc_sys.shtml
"..we've found at least one species where the parasite's entire — or nearly entire — genome has been absorbed and integrated into the host's. The host's genes actually hold the coding information for a completely separate species."
"This parasite [Wolbachia] has implanted itself inside the cells of 70 percent of the world's invertebrates, coevolving with them. And now, we've found at least one species where the parasite's entire — or nearly entire — genome has been absorbed and integrated into the host's. "
Massive" Horizontal Gene Transfer In Animal Kingdom Revealed
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20080429222111data_trunc_sys.shtml
"massive" horizontal gene transfer in the animal known as the bdelloid rotifer... from bacteria, fungi, and even from plants."
""Most of the foreign genes ... found in the bdelloid genomes were clustered near the tips of chromosomes, called the telomeres."
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 14:36 |
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I have a question about nuclear mRNA transcription and subsequent cellular gene translation into protein.
When the bacteria infect the host cell nucleus and alter the host DNA it seems the host will transcribe the bacteria genes into mRNA. Then, does the bacteria ribosome translate this mRNA in the cytoplasm? Or does the host ribosome translate the mRNA into protein? I know the answer must be that the bacteria ribosome translates the infected gene as the MP targets the S70 bacterial ribosome with the bacteriostatic abx. I just don’t understand the process.
Or, does the bacterial DNA infect the cell nucleus, but not alter the host DNA, but gets transcribed by the host, independent of the host DNA, when it is in the host nucleus because it has an “origin of replication” and then, get translated by the bacterial ribosome?
Does the cell mitochondria DNA get involved in this bacterial gene transfer infection? If yes, then does the 70S bactera ribosome also work inside the cell mitochondria.
Thanks for considering this.
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Markt9452
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 08:01 |
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Humans Have Ten Times More Bacteria Than Human Cells: How Do Microbial Communities Affect Human Health?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080603085914.htm
"What was interesting about some of the other species with smaller populations is that they were host specific. We could only identify them on a single host. It is entirely possible that everyone could have a unique bacterial signature," says Blaser"
"Recognizing its importance, the National Institutes of Health in December 2007 announced the Human Microbiome Project as part of its Roadmap for Medical Research, devoting over $100 million in grants over the next five years"
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Posted: Sun Jun 8th, 2008 08:26 |
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Gene, I think it is more important that the bacteria reduce the ability of the host to repair its genes, rather than that there is necessarily any mutation or replacement. The extent of horizontal transfer to Homo sapiens is still not quantified.
All the ribosomes are capable of transcription, although I doubt all of the RNA will be translated by all the ribosomes. The human ribosome is made primarily from proteins, while the bacterial ribosome is largely itself assembled from RNA. So I doubt they are exactly identical in what they do 
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NickBowler
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 17:31 |
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Maybe this could be useable to directly show the MP in action?:
Pictures of the immune system in action may give doctors an edge in treating autoimmune diseases and cancer. Until now, there have been few options for imaging the immune system, which is dispersed throughout the body and does not show up readily with X-rays or other imaging methods.
To address this problem, Owen Witte and his colleagues at the University of California at Los Angeles, US, have developed a molecular tag that binds preferentially to immune-system cells to make them visible by positron emission tomography (PET).
When the researchers injected the tag, known as FAC, into mice, they found it gave an image of the animals' spleen, lymph nodes and other immune tissues. Mice whose immune systems had been challenged by a viral infection "lit up" more brightly than uninfected mice, as did mutant mice with autoimmune disorders.
If the same technique works in people, it should give doctors an easier way to monitor the progression of autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis or lupus, and quickly gauge the effectiveness of treatments, says Witte.
It may also help in the early detection of cancer, which often involves inflammation at the tumour site. Moreover, because FAC is closely related to gemcitabine, a drug commonly used in chemotherapy for leukemia and some other cancers, oncologists may be able to use the uptake of FAC to predict which patients are likely to respond well to chemotherapy.
Journal reference: Nature Medicine (DOI: 10.1038/nm1724)
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn14090-tagging-cells-reveals-the-immune-system-in-action.html?feedId=online-news_rss20
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