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 Posted: Sat Dec 13th, 2008 16:36

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Stop-Press:
The HD video of my keynote presentation at WCG 2008  is now online. You can find it at:
http://www.vimeo.com/2585394

The written transcript can be downloaded from:

http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/transcripts/WCG2008_Keynote_Transcript.pdf

The presentation I gave at West China Hospital consisted of a repeat of the WCG 2008 science overview (above), and a presentation focusing on clinical issues. This is the first time I have reviewed the Protocol itself for several years, and I hope you enjoy taking a fresh look at what we have all achieved:

http://www.vimeo.com/2599416
The transcript of the West China Hospital Presentation is important to print for Doc, as it deals with clinical aspects I usually don't cover in the scientific presentations:

http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/transcripts/WCH_2008_seminar_transcript.pdf
 

Thanks to all who worked so hard producing these transcripts:)
 
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I am sorry I did not get time to write from China. I was swept around from event to event with Dr Hershko, the 2004 Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, and only got to see a total of one hour of the conference presentations. Everywhere we went it was photographers, flashing, whirring cameras and the bevy of shoulder-carried video cameras with sound-men wielding pole-mounted boom microphones.

Here is a picture taken in the VIP room just before the Keynote I gave at the 'World Gene Congress 2008'. Next to me (left to right) is Dr Hershko, and next to him is the Governor of Guangdong Province. A province of 79 million people...





Here is a photo of me shoveling some dirt during Saturday's tree planting ceremony to mark the dedication of the new Nobel Research Institute. Next to the tree we were planting was one, decades old, planted by the late Chairman Deng Xiaoping. This was a great honor.





Finally, we flew to Chengdu, to give a seminar at the West China Hospital, the largest clinical center in the world. WCH has 4600 beds, and looks after more than 2 million patients a year (including outpatients). I have put together a short video from the promotional DVD distributed by the Hospital, you can view it at

http://curemyth1.org/flash/WCH.html

Here I am with Liz and some staff from the WCH Rheumatology Department, who had invited me to visit (the full Rheumatology Dept is huge, having 73 dedicated beds):




The seminar at WCH covered extra ground, not just the new 'Science' presentation I gave at the Gene conference keynote, but a brand new presentation on the Clinical Issues which need to be addressed when introducing the MP into a hospital environment.

The videos last for 80 minutes, and it will take me another week to finish editing, and put them online --- watch this space ---

Following the seminar, I signed, on behalf of the Foundation, a Letter of Intent to collaborate with West China Hospital to help them bring the Marshall Protocol to their patients in China.

All in all, an amazing journey, and we met an amazing group of people. I suspect I will be making the 16 hr trip to Guangzhou, and the 2 hr connection to Chengdu, rather frequently over the coming years :)
 

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Wow, Trevor, this sounds very promising. How the heck did they come to know about, understand and accept the MP so quickly? Are they already treating patients on the MP?

Congratulations!

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Rico,
They were looking for new ways of understanding and treating diseases like Lupus and Ankylosing Spondylitis, and they came across our work in a Google search. They were pleased to find our Science so well developed...

WCH read the Patient Alumni reports that have been posted, and decided that the MP was something they definitely needed to look into...

As it happened, when I got their email, I was already planning the conference trip, and so I cut the visit to Guangzhou a few days short, and scheduled the seminar at WCH :):)

They are not using the MP yet, there are a number of steps we must take first, to fully understand how they will successfully implement the MP in such a huge group of patients, most of whom do not read English, and who cannot therefore share with us at this Internet study-site :):)
 
 

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Wow. A Google search ... and some reading, thinking and open-mindedness ... kind of like all of us patients :)  Bravo to them for taking this bold move. This is really very good news, indeed.



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Congratulations, Trevor.  This is as fascinating as it is impressive.  And for anyone who needed further proof that we are living through the decline of the American empire....



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Saturday's tree planting ceremony to mark the dedication of the new Nobel Research Institute. Next to the tree we were planting was one, decades old, planted by the late Chairman Deng Xiaoping. This was a great honor.

I understand the huge implication this means, and I am so happy and grateful right now that I lack words to express myself!:D 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Xiaoping

May you always, Dr Trevor Marshall, stay as humble, patient and persistent, as you have been in order to come to this moment in life!
:dude:

One more thing, is this right?;
(the full Rheumatology Dept is huge, having 73 dedicated beds):
Did they only have 73 beds in that department? Why is that? Do they not have rheumatism in in West China???:shock:

/Lottis



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What a wonderful Christmas present. This is excellent news. Congratulations Dr. Marshall.



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This reminds me of the story of W Edwards Deming, whose work in the field of quality control was embraced by the Japanese after WWII.  He couldn't get anyone to listen in this country.  That's why the Japanese have Toyota and Honda and the US has GM.

Trevor, this is thrilling.

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The  BIT Life Sciences have put up a report and some pictures from the World Congress of Gene-2008.

http://www.bitlifesciences.com/wcg2008/event_report.htm

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Excellent exposure for Dr. Marshall, the Autoimmunity Research Foundation, and for the understanding of the pathogenic cause of chronic inflammatory diseases (along with approaches for cure). :)

Thanks for that link Lottis. These photos confirm that Dr. Marshall's signature attire--yellow shirt & red tie--influences event organizers ... did you notice the photos showing the beautiful yellow swags with red bow ties around the tables. :D



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Thanks for the link. It was certainly an amazing experience. As was the West China Hospital in Chengdu. I am working on getting the video of the presentations online, there is a lot of video, and it will take me a week or so to get it all processed.

Here is a copy of the conference hotel foyer, with Christmas decorations in place (click for larger image).
A Merry Christmas to all...





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Dr. Marshall, I had the pleasure and privilege to work and study personally with Dr. W. Edwards Deming.  It was an incredible experience.  I can say his work though it helped revolutionize the way we conduct business in the global economy today, will not match the benefit to mankind your MP will do to relieve the suffering of millions.

I am behind your noble work 100% in whatever way you feel will be most helpful.



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The video of my keynote presentation is now online. The middle of the presentation is rather similar to my Porto presentation, but it has extra material at the beginning and end:)

http://www.vimeo.com/2585394

Would anybody like to volunteer to produce a transcript?
 

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Superb work as usual Prof M :)



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Great key note, really enjoyed watching it!

Yes, I would like to volunteer.

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Ron,
If you could suggest a section of the speech which you would like to transcribe, and then email me the ASCII text, hopefully others will help with the rest of the presentation.

In the past, Janet Raty (jtfoutin) has transformed the text and slides into the beautiful transcripts we place online, hopefully she will have some time spare to help with this project, too.

If you can understand the Indian, Chinese and European accents during the questions, it would be a great help if you could work with them first, as many of our members will have trouble with these, I fear :) I myself wasn't able to decipher every word, but I will add what I can.

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I have a few days off from work and would be happy to help out with the transcription!:)

Ron or Dr. Marshall, just let me know where to start. In the meantime, I'll view the presentation!:cool:



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Gary,

Thanks for joining. You can start at the beginning while I try to decipher the questions as Dr. Marshall suggested.

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The presentation I gave at West China Hospital consisted of a repeat of the WCG 2008 science overview (above), and a new presentation focusing on clinical issues. This is the first time I have reviewed the Protocol itself for several years, and I hope you enjoy taking a fresh look at what we have all achieved:

http://www.vimeo.com/2599416

There is a short overview of West China Hospital itself at:
http://curemyth1.org/flash/WCH.html
 


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