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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 16:39

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who was that guy standing in front of the camera blocking you off and on?
That was our host, conference organizer Dr. Radek Klubal :):)

Luckily, I had the camera up high, so only his head was blocking. I didn't notice he was in the way, or I might have moved my own position a little :):)
 

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The first of my two presentations is now online. This presentation is titled "It is time to bury Koch - Infectious Disease transitions to an understanding of the Metagenome." I use the HIV and M.tuberculosis genomes to illustrate how the Th1 metagenomic microbiota interacts with the human genome to cause chronic disease.
 
http://vimeo.com/4307469
 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 16:58

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This article http://www.townsendletter.com/Jan2009/vitaminD0109.htm also covers some of the same material that Trevor referred Frans to (and some additional literature), though of course the Annals, peer-reviewed one will be better to refer to when it comes out .  But, you can see some of the cancer and other literature covered in this one (also on vitamin D and colds and flu).

Joyce Waterhouse

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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 17:07

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When ready, the transcripts can go here:
http://mpkb.mp-dev.com/doku.php/home:publications:marshall_chlamydia2_2009
http://mpkb.mp-dev.com/doku.php/home:publications:marshall_chlamydia1_2009

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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 17:41

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Trevor,

I have very slow broadband and the second presentation, on the MP itself, took well over an hour to buffer (but was worth waiting for :)).  Is there any way I can download it to my computer to refer to again?  I have this problem with most of the MP videos, especially with Vimeo.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 17:43

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Julia, if you download Realplayer (for free), you will be given the option to download the video from vimeo directly to your harddrive, this way it will not need to buffer.

At least that is what I have been doing when faced with this problem.

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Julia, did you switch the HD button off? It is a button towards the middle right of the display screen, and should say "HD is off" when you have a limited bandwidth connection.
 

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Trevor, the HD is off by default and I leave it that way.

Martin, thank you, I think you may have solved my problem - my version of RealPlayer was so old it wasn't functioning and I'd forgotten about it.  Now I've installed the new one it seems to be busy downloading properly :)



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Dr Marshall,

Totally enjoyed your presentation.:)

Forgive me if I have a hearing problem but half way through your presentation you referrred to 3 abx's - Clindy, Mino and the R abx. Is this a new bacteriostatic abx or were you referring to Zith.

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Rifampin is an antibiotic we do not use. I don't know if it will work against the Th1 pathogens, but its side effects are pretty severe. We have much better antibiotics available to us :)

The relevant thing in my presentation was that all three antibiotics are known PXR receptor agonists, and therefore behave differently in-vivo and in-vitro :)

All three antibiotics were originally isolated from pathogens... Maybe the body remembers more about antibiotics than we do...
 
 

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Thank you so much for that. 

Seeing the HIV infected cell directly infect another cell without the need for blood makes it very clear why Benicar is needed.  At least to me!!!  I may not have understood much of the presentation, but what I did understand expanded my knowledge of the MP.  Also, although I could not make sense of much of the presentation, I could tell it was a powerful one, and I can only hope that it makes sense to most of the people who attend these conferences and will help doctors understand why we do what we do on the Marshall protocol (that much I got).

Looking forward to the other presentation.

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Julia,
I send the videos up to Vimeo in a special format called H.264, which very few computers can decode. Additionally, the files are about 300 megabytes in size. So there is really little point in encouraging people to download the files directly. Best to watch them, or use some of the capture software which is available these days :)
 

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Trevor,

Excellent work at the workshop. Do you feel that any of the other participants had an "Ah Ha!" moment? Did you walk away with anything to help fill in some of the pieces of the puzzle?

How can I get a copy of the gene disease map you displayed in your presentation? I searched online and found versions of it but not one as complete as yours.

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Lee,
Amy cites the article containing that map in our latest paper:

http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/transcripts/AR-Proal-Metagenome.pdf
 
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Lee,

The paper is called: The Human Disease Network  (PMID 17502601)

You can find it on pubmed.com

Search for: 17502601

Hope this helps, Frans

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Trevor,

That explains why it took 2hrs 20m to download and now refuses to play!  That means I can't watch it or refer to it again, without waiting for the endless buffering, and while it's buffering, everything else slows down or won't work :(  Isn't there some way you can make videos available to those of us with frustratingly slow connections?  What is capture software?

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Julia,

What a bummer that the video won't play. Can you tell us the format of the file you downloaded? Does it have a .flv or a .mp4 extension?

I always use K-Lite and it comes with Media Player Classic. Works very well and I can play virtually all formats (including Real Media, I hate that commercial software).

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Ron,

Realplayer says it's MP4, 248MB.  Is K-Lite a decoding thing?  I have Windows Media Player, which plays music, and BBC iPlayer for films, but maybe that's only for BBC films, I wouldn't know :? 



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Yes, K-Lite is a codec pack.

But even better is VLC Media Player as that one is less likely to mess up your current installation. It even can play the MP4-stream directly (File - Open Network Stream).

VLC will definitely play your downloaded MP4 file.



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Am I being paranoid or what? 

After watching the video, given the accumulation of microbiota over time, I could not see the value of ever eating foods naturally high in Vitamin D in moderation--that is, after I am well.  I could see occasional consumption (perhaps where it cannot be avoided), but not an active decision to consume a food high in vitamin D on a regular basis.  So while I don't see myself being overly strict (e.g., never eating out or forcing people who have invited me to dinner to comply with my diet), I do see maintaining an awareness that these foods (in addition to added D) are not foods that I want to eat. 

Am I going too far?  Is there any value in these foods that I am missing that would outweigh their potential negative impact?

Thanks, Claire



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