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The Antibodies Congress in Beijing, May 2009
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 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 14:44

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What types of diagnoses will be included in the study? 



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Initially we will look at Ankylosing spondylitis. The disease progress is easily measured, and there is no dispute that it is "all in your mind."
 

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 Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 23:53

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Dr Huang, an Associate professor at West China Hospital, Sichuan University, is one of our collaborators in the upcoming studies.

During our visit to WCH , she gave a presentation describing her research on the pathways leading to IFIT4 expression,.

I have put the video online at URL http://vimeo.com/5066949

This is not directly related to our own research, except that you will be able to see how thoroughly the researchers at West China Hospital are pursuing fundamental molecular research. Some of their efforts will now be channeled into ex-vivo and in-vitro analysis of the MP's molecular actions :):)
 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 02:51

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Dr. Marshall,
Do they have the capability to do DNA sequencing of cells as discussed here?
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum39/9999-6.html



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Yes, they can isolate and sequence individual cells.
 

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 Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 18:33

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Dr Trevor Marshall wrote: Initially we will look at Ankylosing spondylitis. The disease progress is easily measured, and there is no dispute that it is "all in your mind."
 


Good choice in my opinion. Interestingly my last x-rays came back "normal" after about 2 years on the MP which certainly puzzled my doctor...

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I've had a bit of confusion over the terms used.  Is spondylitis the inflammatory part of the disease, and spondylosis the degenerative damage caused by the spondylitis?  Sort of the case of spondylitis preceding spondylosis?

Have the researchers listed the tests they plan to monitor to follow progress on the MP?

Thanks, Cynthia (with spondylosis of some sort among other problems)



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 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2009 16:48

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Dr. Marshall wrote:
Yes, they can isolate and sequence individual cells.
I was wondering, is there much interest in examining the ecology/species of bacteria living intracellularly? If multiple species inhabit the same cell, is it possible to separate out which species are present? When you say "individual cells," do you mean individual human immune cells or individual bacterial cells? If bacterial, how do they isolate them if they are living intracellularly with other species, say within a biofilm?

Sorry for so many questions, but this is exciting to me.



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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 04:06

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Cynthia.....check out these two entries at wikipedia.

Ankylosing spondylitis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spondylosis


Terry



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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 16:25

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The video of Amy's 'antibodies' presentation is now online at

http://vimeo.com/5106259

It was a really good presentation, with the questions stretching 33 minutes into the lunch-hour before the chairman called a halt. There was another 10 minutes of informal discussion before most of us started to think about food...
 
The presentation of Prof Xiangyang Huang, PhD, MD, of West China Hospital, Sichuan University, has also been placed online. It will give you some idea of the depth of molecular study being pursued there.

http://vimeo.com/5066949
 
 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 17:58

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Great presentation Ames !  Well done !!

Best, Frans



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 Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 18:35

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Hi all,

As you can already probably tell from the pictures in this thread, I enjoyed traveling to China very much. First, the Congress of the Antibody went very well and people seemed quite interested in the MP pathogenesis. Then, I had the unique opportunity to travel down to Chengdu and join Dr. Marshall in discussing/implementing the MP with researchers at West China Hospital.

The researchers and doctors at WHC work extremely hard and I think the hospital is an excellent place to conduct the clinical trial. Between scientific discussions, the researchers involved in our collaboration made sure we never had a dull moment. We were taken to see pandas, temples, and even into the mountains of China with lush vegetation. Everyone involved including our student guides were extremely gracious and generous.

I have written two new articles on Bacteriality. One describes my experience at the International Congress of the Antibody. I do not describe the collaboration meetings with WHC because I am aware that I was not there as a reporter but a scientist.

Also I wrote a short post describing what I've been up to lately - work and play that has unfortunately kept me from posting regularly on Bacteriality but has been very satisfying.

Best,

Amy



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Fabulous Amy!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Congratulations on a presentation well done Amy! It was magnificent!

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Would anyone mind transcribing the Q & A?
http://mpkb.mp-dev.com/doku.php/home:publications:proal_ica_2009

Some of the questions are a little hard to make out, but that's okay. Just use "..."

If you want you can email me and I'll put it in the Knowledge Base.

thanks,
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My presentation at Luzhou Medical College, Szechuan province, China, on June 2, 2009 is now online at Vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/5144907

Info on LMC is at: http://globaldentalsources.com/info/news/news_view.asp?id=8090

The presentation is a concise summary of the science and therapy underlying the Marshall Protocol clinical intervention for chronic disease.

Concurrent translation commentary in Chinese is provided by Professor Liu.

For some reason Vimeo cannot seem to get exact synchronization between the video and the audio on this clip. However, the MP4 video file, which is synchronized correctly, can be downloaded by Vimeo members. The link is at the bottom right of the Vimeo page. It plays with a free VLC player (http://videolan.org/vlc ) on either Mac, Windows or Linux.
 

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 Posted: Fri Jun 19th, 2009 19:31

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Dr Trevor Marshall wrote: I returned home from China yesterday. Amy is home too.

There will be a formal Press Release in a few days...
 


Hi I was just curious if the Press Release was released yet? If not, no pressure, just would be nice to be able to link to something "official" regarding this great news!

NorCalJim



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I was distracted by the events in Australia. I am in Sydney at the moment :)

..Trevor..

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From Dr. Marshall's presentation in China I understood that Benicar Q6 40mg has antibacterial effect by activating the immune system and Benicar Q4 and higher has palliative effect by deactivating the immune system. Is it correct?

Thank you Gene



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No - at both high and medium doses Benicar activates the innate immune system by activating the VDR. At high dosing levels it also has a palliative effect additional to the palliation it produces at low doses.
 


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