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jcwat101
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 Posted: Thu Feb 5th, 2009 21:08

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Lynn,

I would also ask, just in case this is relevant, what your calcium intake has been from food and supplements?

It is generally recommended to get near the RDA from food if one can, and if one can't , then using some calcium supplement without D can help make up the difference to achieve the RDA.

See:

Do I need to take a calcium supplement... 

for more information.

Joyce Waterhouse

Last edited on Thu Feb 5th, 2009 21:09 by jcwat101



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 Posted: Mon Feb 16th, 2009 07:47

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The results of my first ever DEXA scan are in.

My doctor was very concerned and wanted me to supplement with vitD or take Fosamax. I was successful in getting him to consider:

(1) Fosamax is known to make bones brittle,
(2) since being ill I have had low estrogen (peri meno-pauseal) & but now my cycles were regular for last 5 months,
(3) I had high 1,25D prior to staring MP & this may have affected bone density,
(4) my risk of fracture is low because I am careful & mostly sedentary,
(5) I have not been taking my cal/mag supplement faithfully (hardly at all).

(Another important factor may have been untreated subclinical low thyroid function.)

So he agreed with plan to actually take (not just have on shelf) Cal/Mag @ RDA levels & retest in 2 yrs.

DEXA scan results: 2/9/2009 (at age 47)

L1-L4 Spine:       0.903 g/cm2 (T: -2.4, Z: -2.1).
Left Femur/Neck:   0.767 g/cm2 (T: -1.9, Z: -1.2).
Left Femur/Total:  0.793 g/cm2 (T: -1.7, Z: -1.3).
Right Femur/Neck:  0.683 g/cm2 (T: -2.6, Z: -1.8).
  {note: right hip is only joint that has ever had pain}
Right Femur/Total: 0.742 g/cm2 (T: -2.17, Z: -1.7).

The right hip hurt quite a bit during my illness and at the beginning of the MP, but I can't remember the last time it did hurt, so I suspect that the MP has already been helping on that front.



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 Posted: Mon May 4th, 2009 02:15

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cathys2007 wrote:
My D25 results have decreased to 17. I am happy to report that my recent bone density results show a 2% INCREASE in bone density. I expected a slowing of bone loss and am excited that there was no loss but an improvement.  

Not only do I feel better, but now I have tangible proof that MP is working.:D

Cathy :)
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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 08:37

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Thanks Joyce, I do take a supplement. Also Australia does not have vit D in dairy so I am able to have milk and yogurt. I eat greens, take blueberries every morning so I think I am on the right track. I hope so.
 
Take care, Lynn.



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 Posted: Thu Jul 30th, 2009 02:20

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These are my DEXA scan results. I’m including scans prior to being on the MP.
Before I started MP.

March 2007      no steroids

Scan Type:                          BMD                       T-Score                  Z-Score
AP Spine L2-L4                 1.222 g/cm2                0.2                            0.0
DualFemur/neck left           0.831 g/cm2               -1.5                          -1.2
DualFemur neck right          0.847 g/cm2              -1.4                          -1.1
 

I took steroids from March 2007 (after the first DEXA scan) until February 2008. I was also given high doses of Vitamin D in April 2007. I also was taking Boniva from April 2007 until May 2008.

May 2008
Scan Type:                          BMD                       T-Score                  Z-Score
AP Spine L2-L4                 1.181 g/cm2              -0.2                          -0.3
DualFemur/neck left           0.791 g/cm2               -1.8                          -1.5
DualFemur neck right          0.800 g/cm2              -1.7                          -1.4
 

Started MP 7/7/08: no Vitamin D, no Boniva, no steroids

April 2009
Scan Type:                          BMD                       T-Score                  Z-Score
AP Spine L2-L4                 1.186 g/cm2               0.1                           -0.1
DualFemur/neck left           0.807 g/cm2               -1.7                          -1.3
DualFemur neck right          0.816 g/cm2              -1.6                          -1.2 

The radiologist report indicates a 2% increase in bone density!  

Before starting MP, my scans show a decreasing bone density. I was on MP for 10 months and the DEXA scan showed improvements.

As indicated by my results…. MP works…. :D

Cathy:)

Last edited on Thu Jul 30th, 2009 02:27 by cathys2007



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 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2009 15:24

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Hello,

I experimented 2 hypotensive crisis (once a year). They were both associated to an important changement of habbits; i mean of my day usual program. They both solved by themselves; when i felt them, i lay down, breathe deeply and slowly and wait time to recover, that happens after more or less 15 minutes.

I hope it can help

Mathiew:)



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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 03:27

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year   where  bmd     t-score           z-score
2007 L1-L4 1.058       87% -1.3          87% -1.3
2009 L1-L4 1.153       94%  -0.5         96% -0.4
           
2007 left femur        neck   0.870      81% -1.5  88% -0.9
2009 left femur        neck   0.928      87% -1.1  98% -0.3

2007 right femur        neck   0.777      73% -2.3  79% -1.6
2009 right femur        neck   0.862      81% -1.6  98% -0.8

I've been taking (most days) 500mg SolRay chelated calcium.

I did have two previous scans done, but they were at a different hospital.




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 Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 04:48

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